Talk:Juniperus phoenicea

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Revision needed

The article was constructed before Juniperus turbinata was split off from Juniperus phoenicea, and so needs to be thoroughly revised. In particular, as now defined, Juniperus phoenicea is only found in France, Portugal and Spain. Most populations previously treated as J. phoenicea are now J. turbinata. Peter coxhead (talk) 11:02, 28 January 2018 (UTC)[reply]

@Peter coxhead: J. canariensis has been created. I support moving the current Juniperus phoenicea page to Juniperus phoenicea (species complex) (or Juniperus grex phoenicea as suggested by Sánchez-Gómez 2018^[1]) since it would be useful as an aggregate and since recent studies don't exclude further splitting of J. turbinata. --Ihaveacatonmydesk (talk) 10:39, 21 August 2023 (UTC)[reply]

EDIT: of course a new article would have to be created for J. phoenicea as currently defined.

@Ihaveacatonmydesk: "grex" is almost always only used, at least in English texts, for orchids. Using "(species complex)" is fine by me. Peter coxhead (talk) 20:53, 21 August 2023 (UTC)[reply]

References

^ Sánchez-Gómez, Pedro; Jiménez, Juan F.; Cánovas, Jose Luis; Vera, Juan Bautista; Hensen, Isabell; Aouissat, Miloud (2018). "Genetic structure and phylogeography of Juniperus phoenicea complex throughout Mediterranean and Macaronesian regions: Different stories in one". Annals of Forest Science. 75 (3). doi:10.1007/s13595-018-0741-7. S2CID 256204442.

[Sánchez-Gómez2018-1] Sánchez-Gómez, Pedro; Jiménez, Juan F.; Cánovas, Jose Luis; Vera, Juan Bautista; Hensen, Isabell; Aouissat, Miloud (2018). "Genetic structure and phylogeography of Juniperus phoenicea complex throughout Mediterranean and Macaronesian regions: Different stories in one". Annals of Forest Science. 75 (3). doi:10.1007/s13595-018-0741-7. S2CID 256204442.

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